[心得] 選MBA學校

看板LA (大洛杉磯區)作者 (Packer)時間16年前 (2009/10/21 11:07), 編輯推噓5(5044)
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有兩個在我寫"Chapman University"之後寄信問有關於MBA及why我選Chapman... 乾脆就一起發表看大家的感想如何 Of course, GMAT, GPA, Essay, 工作經驗都可以從留學版找, but我想發表如何找一間是和你的學校: 這篇文章有點針對已在美學生申請MBA.... So, 我覺得第一件事是去學校走走, 看看它們的環境, 學生及教授的interactions, and 工作人員得態度 真的, MBA 在Southern CA除了UCLA and USC, 其他學校在其他地方都不太"出名"尤 其東部. 對他們來說 UCI MBA and UC Riverside 都差不多, 除非真得有心去看排名. 所以重點是你要什麼, 有太多亞洲人擠破頭進TOP 25 MBA programs 但到了Class participation和Networking時都變成啞巴....個人感覺真的 事太浪費那些好學校的資源了! 像我現在教授就有說過一句話: "MBA學生應該多花點 時間在Networking上, 而不是整天想如何拿A. 當大部分MBA的人都至少有B以上的程度, Networking是取決妳到底有沒有工作的關建" 再來是Top 25 and 小學校的好處及壞處: Top 25 的教授and學生都是一流, 所以素質高, offer課程也多, alumni的force也很強 但同時競爭壓力也相當大...非常難讓別人信服你and讓你自己standup for rest of group. 加上如果你neworking能力又沒比別人強, 準備畢業後打包回台吧... 我有一個朋友在UCLA part-time MBA, 他被整個team 排擠因為他工作年齡低(也7年ㄝ!) 別人不服氣他當team leader, 整個team到他自己願意讓位之後才willing跟他交談 小學校ㄋ... 像Chapman, Pepperdine, Loyola Marymount的教授資格其實都相當不錯 但學生overall素質較低, offer課程也沒像UCLA多. 但好處是同學之間願意做study group的意願較高讓大家都越來越好 小學校優點也是能讓你的聲音容易聽見...一些多花的時間and經力能讓自己可能成為 club的社長even MBAA President. 都對你未來就業有幫助 So..."重點是你要什麼" -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 75.3.248.13

10/21 11:09, , 1F
多謝指點
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10/21 11:26, , 2F
感謝分享,但看的有點累。Networking很重要,但是你把
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10/21 11:27, , 3F
Top25跟其他列出來學校相比,networkin就沒那麼重要了
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因為差距實在太大。除非你有身份,不然再怎麼交際應酬
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10/21 11:28, , 5F
正常公司$70k以上的理想工作還是很遙遠
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10/21 11:29, , 6F
I dont agree w/ ur pt. Like my school has an
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Indian alumni is willing to sponsor working Visa
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even you work for others, if you do not network
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you wouldn't know that Indian. If you don't
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in top 25, it is hard to get into big companies
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like Citi... remember, 80% of US people got their
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job because they know "someone". And that someone
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is from networking. Plus I am writing this as in
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West Coast schools... top 25 are USC, UCLA,Stanford
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...and those fews...
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我想直接拿貴校就業狀況出來看應該比較客觀
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Well, Chapman has not ranked high on job placement
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the school score A and A- on faculty, and quality
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but only C+ on career placement(business week)
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Anyhow, my pt is that for many TW intl students
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getting into top25 and do well is not a easy job
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but be able to claim a job is even harder, so boost
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your social skills are important while still at
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school.
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10/22 00:47, , 25F
大部分台灣留學生不像您有身份,如果沒有Top20,還是
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10/22 00:47, , 26F
留在台灣比較強。不值得花四百萬到美國networking
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10/22 00:48, , 27F
另外那位印度校友提供H1很好,但薪水呢?$70k以上嗎?
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10/22 09:52, , 28F
wow, you are all about 70K, arent you? Regarless
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the guy only sponsor your visa status but not give
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you a job. Why? because others will if you do not
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10/22 09:53, , 31F
require company to sponsor you. MBA is all about
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10/22 09:53, , 32F
networking... ask any Havard, UCLA, and any MBA
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school. With your point, you should stay in TW or
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沒有$70k以上的薪水,就無法讓你四百萬台幣的投資回本
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go to MBA school in Asia.
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10/22 09:55, , 36F
我當然知道Networking很重要,我是Kellogg校友,我只是
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10/22 09:55, , 37F
強調非Top20,又沒身份,你即使認識全校6000個人,對你
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10/22 09:56, , 38F
找工作也比不上Top20來的有用。而且沒錯,沒有身份,沒
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10/22 09:57, , 39F
有Top20,就該留在台灣或亞洲,美國MBA不適合你,成功
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不會只有留美MBA這一條路
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10/22 09:58, , 41F
而且$70k已經是退一萬步了,top20都是$100k起跳
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Did you read the recent report? Many Havard MBA
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grad only has 20K a year. You dont measure a person
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on how much you make, its what you do. Once you
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not rich
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這裡是LA版,我不想跟你講太多,有興趣的話轉到留學版
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10/22 10:18, , 47F
我們再繼續。另外$20k?只不過是sing-on bonus而已
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10/23 01:07, , 49F
你還是講中文吧... 另外many HBS 20K?! 無可能...
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