Re: [問題] 未許可後推

看板Aviation (航空板)作者 (nelsonyang1216)時間12年前 (2014/03/04 18:58), 編輯推噓9(9014)
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※ 引述《jerry093000 (歐歐歐)》之銘言: : 剛剛看到這個影片 : 遠航未申請許可直接後推 擋住已經滑行許可的華航 : 這樣子會有調查懲處之類的後續嗎? : 純粹好奇XD : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31ydtRprtYU
來打一下好了: FE8861: TSA GND, FE8861, Bay 11, ready pushback + startup. TSA GND: FE8861, stand by (...inaudible) FE8861: Say again, FE8861. TSA GND: FE8861, standby need to watch traffic. FE8861: Standby for FE8861. TSA GND: FE8861, startup (approved) without the power. FE8861: Urm... Startup approved, FE8861. CI201: GND, CI201, taxi? TSA GND: CI201, proceed W toward holding point RWY 10. CI201: W toward RWY 10 holding point, CI201. AE364: GND, AE364 (...inaudible) TSA GND: AE364, TSA GND, proceed via E hold short CC. AE364: E hold short CC, AE364. TSA GND: FE8861, TSA GND. FE8861: Go ahead, FE8861. TSA GND: FE8861, I just give you (文法錯誤 xD) the startup idle power clearance. FE8861: Startup clearance without power, Urm... Sorry, we, I... (Inaudible) pushback clearance. TSA GND: FE8861, (inaudible) expedite, proceed via W to holding point RWY 10. FE8861: Expedite taxi via W to holding point RWY 10, FE8861. TSA GND: CI201, continue via W to holding point RWY 10. CI201: Continue W to holding point RWY 10, there is a preceding aircraft ahead. TSA GND: FE8861, contact TWR 118.1 . FE8861: Contact tower 118.1, sorry sir. 原來如此阿...不知道如果在美國發生擅自後推會怎樣? 最後,想請問一下那個expedite的意思是什麼? Thanks for answering! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 111.81.156.143

03/04 19:07, , 1F
no delay
03/04 19:07, 1F

03/04 19:22, , 2F
未依航管指示,輕則賠款,重責吊飛行員執照
03/04 19:22, 2F

03/04 19:28, , 3F
這可不是說聲Sorry就沒事啦.... = =
03/04 19:28, 3F

03/04 19:32, , 4F
因為追究的人太多... 通常後來就算了 圈子很小
03/04 19:32, 4F

03/04 19:33, , 5F
TSA TWR:FE8861 Clear to Take off RWY 10 Wind 010
03/04 19:33, 5F

03/04 19:33, , 6F
at 5 no delay這樣的? XD
03/04 19:33, 6F

03/04 19:53, , 7F
Use the word expedite only when prompt compliance is
03/04 19:53, 7F

03/04 19:54, , 8F
required to avoid the development of an imminent
03/04 19:54, 8F

03/04 19:54, , 9F
situation.
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03/04 19:57, , 10F
雖可解釋no delay但與immediately的程度上還是有差別
03/04 19:57, 10F
※ 編輯: nelsony1216 來自: 36.231.104.94 (03/04 20:19) ※ 編輯: nelsony1216 來自: 36.231.104.94 (03/04 20:20)

03/04 20:31, , 11F
好奇問:牽引車駕駛聽誰的?
03/04 20:31, 11F

03/04 20:56, , 12F
我以前都以為是聽地面管制的 XD
03/04 20:56, 12F

03/04 21:02, , 13F
expedite ... 叫他趕快滑過去
03/04 21:02, 13F

03/04 21:02, , 14F
ground應該就先將錯就錯再說了
03/04 21:02, 14F

03/04 21:07, , 15F
牽引車駕駛聽耳機員>耳機員聽機長
03/04 21:07, 15F

03/05 00:00, , 16F
新手看不懂阿....
03/05 00:00, 16F

03/05 00:05, , 17F
既然問了就回答一下 美國有些機場 後推是自己來或是
03/05 00:05, 17F

03/05 00:06, , 18F
ramp tower控制的(ramp tower嚴格說來並不是真的ATC)
03/05 00:06, 18F

03/05 00:09, , 19F
後推開車完 再自己滑到movement area的邊界找GND要許可
03/05 00:09, 19F

03/05 00:12, , 20F
在美國ATC violation的話 會要你抄電話號碼
03/05 00:12, 20F

03/05 12:05, , 21F
之前有聽過進錯airspace class+TFR才抄號碼...ATC不確
03/05 12:05, 21F

03/05 12:05, , 22F
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03/05 23:49, , 23F
都會,這類事情不在無線電探究,給你個號碼自己跟FAA說分明
03/05 23:49, 23F
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