Re: [情報] 華航12月1日起和荷航共掛班號飛赫爾辛基

看板Aviation (航空板)作者coolfish1103 (Fishy)時間7小時前 (2025/10/22 14:51)推噓1(1推 0噓 2→)

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※ 引述《toast520520 (藤原健二)》之銘言： : → coolfish1103: 今年以前沒航權是要怎麼共掛？我只會覺得共掛代表沒 10/22 12:00 : → coolfish1103: 有機會直飛，因為CI覺得這航點沒有足夠客貨源。上次 10/22 12:01 : → coolfish1103: BR也是共掛波蘭，這些都是有航權才有辦法做的事。 10/22 12:02 : 沒有航權不等於不能共掛　只要相關單位批准即可 : 有沒有航權差別在能不能用自己的飛機執飛不好意思喔，那我們的認知不一樣。你的意思是雙方沒有事先建立航權，只要相關單位批准就可以代碼共享。我的認知是如果雙方(或多方)沒有建立相關的航權規範，不單純只是雙方班次額度限制，底下的航空公司是沒有辦法進行代碼共享的。 Code-Sharing under International Aviation Law Under International Aviation Law, Article 6 of the Convention on International Civil Aviation signed at Chicago on December 7, 1944 ("Chicago Convention") states that: "No scheduled international air service may be operated over or into the territory of a contracting State, except with the special permission or other authorization of that State, and in accordance with the terms of such permission or authorization." Article 6 of the Chicago Convention is widely considered the basis for providing the framework within which countries enter into, negotiate and enter into bilateral ASA's governing the terms of air services and traffic between two nations. However, there is significant disagreement even today on how code sharing is to be dealt with under the aegis of Chicago Convention. Broadly speaking there appear to be two viewpoints in this regard. While the first viewpoint posits that code-sharing does not require any prior authorization from the State affected by the code-shared service, the second views code-sharing as a form of indirect market access, which requires prior authorization based on underlying traffic rights. 國際航空法下的代碼共享根據國際航空法，1944年12月7日在芝加哥簽署的《國際民用航空公約》（簡稱「《芝加哥公約》」）第六條規定： "任何定期國際航班，除非經締約國特別許可或其他授權，並按照該許可或授權的條件，不得在締約國領土上空或進入該國領土。" 《芝加哥公約》第六條被廣泛認為是各國締結、談判和達成雙邊航空運輸協議（用於規範兩國間航空運輸和交通條款）的框架基礎。然而，即使在今天，對於如何在《芝加哥公約》的框架下處理程式碼共享問題，仍然存在著重大分歧。總體而言，在這方面似乎存在兩種觀點。第一種觀點認為，代碼共享不需要受代碼共享服務影響的國家事先授權；第二種觀點認為，代碼共享是一種間接市場准入的形式，需要基於相關交通權的事先授權。臺灣過去有出現過跟哪國沒有航權締約然後先代碼共享授權的狀況嗎？ Codesharing may be treated in the same manner as other cooperative airline arrangements, requiring the airlines involved to have the appropriate authority (in the case of codesharing, the underlying traffic rights) and meet the requirements normally applied to such agreements. However, for States which may wish to have a specific article on codesharing, the following text is provided. Alternatively, some States may find it preferable that codesharing be addressed in an Article on Commercial opportunities or in the notes to the Route schedule. Most traditional agreements deal implicitly with interlining through the approval of interline tariffs, but rarely have specific provisions concerning the use of leased aircraft, blocked space and the more recent codesharing arrangements. Such arrangements are either approved by the aeronautical authorities concerned on a case-by-case basis or under Memoranda of Understanding. 代碼共享可與其他合作性航空安排同等對待，即要求參與的航空公司擁有適當的授權（在代碼共享的情況下，指相關的航權），並滿足此類協議通常適用的要求。然而，對於希望制定專門關於代碼共享條款的國家，以下文本可供參考。或者，一些國家可能認為，程式碼共享問題最好在關於商業機會的條款或航線時刻表的註釋中處理。大多數傳統協議透過批准聯運運價來隱性地處理聯運問題，但很少有關於租賃飛機使用、封閉艙位以及較新的代碼共享安排的具體規定。此類安排要麼由相關航空當局逐案批准，要麼根據諒解備忘錄批准。上述翻譯均使用 Google 直接機翻，供參。相關連結 https://reurl.cc/MznyMk // https://reurl.cc/WOpvbL -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 111.249.9.211 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Aviation/M.1761115900.A.6F6.html

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pippen2002

10/22 14:53, 7小時前 , 1^F

10/22 14:53, 1^F

華航又不是自己飛，他哪會加倍 XD 而且這種聯營航班可能還比自己買一本票在別的機場轉機還貴，不一定值得。 ※ 編輯: coolfish1103 (111.249.9.211 臺灣), 10/22/2025 14:58:57