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Re: Are you Chinese?

看板CultureShock (文化衝擊)作者 (塔裡的男孩 @LA)時間15年前 (2009/10/02 07:41), 編輯推噓27(27推 0噓 44→)
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我聽過一種回答是： I am ethnically Chinese but politically Taiwanese. 或者回答說：Ethnic Chinese 可以參考一下這兩種回答方法 其中Ethnic Chinese的概念 其實就很接近中文用的「華人」一詞 不過我在美國也遇過一些來自越南、馬來西亞、印尼的華人， 他們通常都直接回答說他們是來自XXX國家的Chinese 所以就算回答Chinese 在美國也不代表你一定是中國籍 不過我自己怎麼樣都是回答說我是 Taiwanese 然後順便解釋說 宣稱自己是Taiwanese/Chinese在台灣是很爭議的問題 也跟外國朋友介紹一下台灣的政治議題 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 99.22.207.115 ※ 編輯: stone1980 來自: 99.22.207.115 (10/02 07:47)
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10/02 08:10, , 1F
我有一次跟新加坡朋友的爸爸媽媽吃飯 不知道聊到了什麼
10/02 08:10, 1F
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10/02 08:11, , 2F
說了類似你們是chinese的話(沒有惡意的 因為他們是華人)
10/02 08:11, 2F
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10/02 08:12, , 3F
她爸爸馬上接著說 他們是ethnic chinese
10/02 08:12, 3F
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10/02 10:20, , 4F
講臺灣人別人就會順便知道你是華人了啊~
10/02 10:20, 4F
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10/02 10:54, , 5F
台灣人不只有華人啦..
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10/02 11:00, , 6F
要嘛全用chinese 要嘛全用taiwanese
10/02 11:00, 6F
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10/02 11:31, , 7F
I'm chinese, but not a chinaman? XD
10/02 11:31, 7F
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10/02 12:15, , 8F
why would you call urself a Chinaman, are you
10/02 12:15, 8F
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10/02 12:16, , 9F
stupid?
10/02 12:16, 9F
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10/02 12:26, , 10F
please read..
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10/02 12:54, , 11F
read what? 難道你不知道那是有貶意的嗎
10/02 12:54, 11F
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10/02 12:54, , 12F
也許是你寫的文字沒辦法完全讓人看懂
10/02 12:54, 12F
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10/02 13:01, , 13F
do you know what "not" means?
10/02 13:01, 13F
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10/02 13:02, , 14F
perhaps you should also explain your comment on my IQ?
10/02 13:02, 14F
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10/02 13:09, , 15F
為什麼後面要加問號你可以解釋一下嗎?
10/02 13:09, 15F
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10/02 13:10, , 16F
anyway, not trying to start an argument here, so
10/02 13:10, 16F
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10/02 13:10, , 17F
just forget about it
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10/02 13:16, , 18F
I was giving a suggestion. that's y
10/02 13:16, 18F
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10/02 13:18, , 19F
yes, i believe you are not trying to be rude at all =)
10/02 13:18, 19F
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10/02 13:19, , 20F
by the way, "chinaman" is not so all negative
10/02 13:19, 20F
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10/02 13:19, 21F
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10/02 13:20, , 22F
sorry i can't type chinese. my apology
10/02 13:20, 22F
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10/02 13:35, , 24F
considered offensive by modern dictionaries
10/02 13:35, 24F
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10/02 13:35, , 25F
nowadays discouraged by Asian American org.
10/02 13:35, 25F
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10/02 13:36, , 26F
from your link, wiki is not a good source
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10/02 13:38, , 27F
like I said, it is offensive to the people who
10/02 13:38, 27F
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10/02 13:38, , 28F
knows what it means
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10/02 13:40, , 29F
anyway, Im trying not to direct away form the OP
10/02 13:40, 29F
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10/02 13:58, , 30F
plz don't provide biased info
10/02 13:58, 30F
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10/02 13:58, , 31F
paste the whole statement please
10/02 13:58, 31F
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10/02 13:58, , 32F
The term has been used without stated offensive intent
10/02 13:58, 32F
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10/02 13:59, , 33F
and has also been used as a self-referential archetype by
10/02 13:59, 33F
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10/02 13:59, , 34F
authors and artists of Asian descent
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10/02 14:00, , 35F
wiki may not be a good source, but the reference is true
10/02 14:00, 35F
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10/02 14:02, , 36F
plus, i said it was not "ALL" negative, please read =)
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10/02 16:02, , 37F
另外其實要考量到很多人的母語不是英語，對他們而言，聽到
10/02 16:02, 37F
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10/02 16:03, , 38F
Ethnic Chinese更是一頭霧水= = 在歐洲很多人的英文程度是僅
10/02 16:03, 38F
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10/02 16:03, , 39F
止於簡單溝通日常生活所需和旅遊的，ethnic對他們而言是太困
10/02 16:03, 39F
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10/02 16:03, , 40F
難的單字 XD
10/02 16:03, 40F
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10/03 01:24, , 41F
被稱作chinaman有人覺得很有趣嗎...
10/03 01:24, 41F
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10/03 01:27, , 42F
他大概不是chinaman吧,就不要用聽不懂 一直在辯護
10/03 01:27, 42F
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10/03 01:28, , 43F
懶得跟北七講話
10/03 01:28, 43F
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10/03 01:33, , 44F
也有一大堆認為叫中國"支那"沒有貶抑的人..
10/03 01:33, 44F
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10/03 08:10, , 45F
now who's offensive? =)
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10/03 08:12, , 46F
man, if you enjoy selective reading, it's up to you
10/03 08:12, 46F
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10/03 08:13, , 47F
but offensively telling me not to be offensive
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10/03 08:13, , 48F
you are embarrasing yourself, don't you think?
10/03 08:13, 48F
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10/03 08:17, , 49F
if you want to be less narrow-minded, you can read the
10/03 08:17, 49F
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10/03 08:19, , 50F
rest of wiki's historical usage of this term
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10/03 08:20, , 51F
its not "always" offensive (if you don't understand what
10/03 08:20, 51F
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10/03 08:20, , 52F
"ALL" means)
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10/03 08:22, , 53F
you need to STFU if you know what I mean
10/03 08:22, 53F
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10/03 08:24, , 54F
就說不需要再吵下去了你一直吵 煩耶
10/03 08:24, 54F
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10/03 08:42, , 55F
you can stop responding and start reading, reading is good
10/03 08:42, 55F
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10/03 08:45, , 56F
btw, i always thought it was a discussion, not a fight
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10/03 14:17, , 57F
好多英文，不想看
10/03 14:17, 57F
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10/03 14:17, , 58F
chinaman用出來就是讓人往帶貶意的地方去想 不要再狡辯
10/03 14:17, 58F
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10/03 14:18, , 59F
還要為這個字護航 留學留到到腦子壞掉?
10/03 14:18, 59F
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10/03 14:34, , 60F
為什麼要執著於一個問號??? 拌嘴的兩個人都很無聊
10/03 14:34, 60F
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10/03 14:39, , 61F
對呀 別吵問號了 這樣原PO會難過喔XD
10/03 14:39, 61F
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10/04 00:16, , 62F
也有一大堆認為叫中國"支那"沒有貶抑的人..sorry我笑了
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10/04 02:33, , 63F
台巴子也沒有貶義呀.......
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10/04 11:03, , 64F
有沒有雙方都懂中文可是要用英文吵的八卦
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10/04 11:04, , 65F
我在ptt見過好多次這種狀況了 真的很妙
10/04 11:04, 65F
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10/04 12:08, , 66F
上行下效 總統秀英文.....草民也是
10/04 12:08, 66F
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10/04 16:45, , 67F
台式英文
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10/04 17:32, , 68F
國名後面加個man是歧視用語 不可以用
10/04 17:32, 68F
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10/04 17:56, , 69F
樓上 沒那麼嚴重啦
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10/07 16:31, , 70F
笑啊
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10/08 23:46, , 71F
FMZ大不是說他不能打中文嗎:p 要看清楚阿
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